The announcement was made almost secretively: Rootsweb mailing lists for genealogists will be closing on 2 March 2020.
For three decades Rootsweb has hosted mailing lists for genealogists and enabled them to communicate with others around the world and to collaborate in grenealogy and family history research. For more than half the time those mailing lists have been administered by a commercial firm, Ancestry.com, which has now decided to pull the plug.
This comes only two months after YahooGroups, another host of mailing lists, made a similar announcement, though a change of management at Yahoo had already resulted in a partial crippling of YahooGroups in 2013.
One result of the Yahoo! debacle was the formation of groups.io, which offers a new and improved version of the YahooGroups format, and with the impending closing of Rootsweb many of the Rootsweb mailing lists will be taking refuge there as well.
On the positive side, there will probably be a weeding out and streamlining of of genealogy mailing lists.
For example, there were about a dozen mailing lists on Rootsweb related
to specific areas of South Africa, with fairly sparse traffic. groups.io
makes it possible to have subgroups, so we are encouraging people to
join a new list for the whole of Africa, and we can open subgroups for
different regions, but only if traffic from those regions gets too
heavy.
You can see the African list here:
https://groups.io/g/afgen
and
there are also discussions about consolidating various northwest
England groups on Rootsweb (Cumbria, Cumberland, UK-Northwest) into a
new one on groups io.
The Rootsmagic-users group, for support of users of the genealogy program Rootsmagic, has already opened a new list on groups.io, and no doubt others will soon do the same.
The bad news is that thirty years of archives will effectively be lost.
For thirty years people have been sharing their research on genealogy mailing lists. Many of the people who collected that information are now dead, and much of their work will be lost.
Among the more useful items were online discussions about published family trees, noting inaccuracies in them and often providing corrections.
Rootsweb was originally an amateur effort, but grew so large that amateurs could not afford the time or the money to maintain the servers and negotiated with Ancestry.com to take over the administration on condition that Rootsweb would always remain free. Perhaps, in hindsight, that wasn't a good idea, and it might have been better to set up a kind of non-profit trust, but it's far too late to think of that now.
But there is hope in the migration to groups.io, and I only hope that it will be done with consultation, and with weeding out and consolidation of duplicate, overlapping and redundant mailing lists.
Some have sugested that Rootsweb group members should migrate to social media web formats like Facebook groups, but though such forums are popular, they are far less efficient or effective than mailing lists. Because of Facebook's algorithms, one is quite likely to miss the most useful and relevant messages altogether. With mailing lists you decide what is relevant, but on Facebook, it is Facebook's algorithm that decides what it will and will not show you. And finding a message again after a couple of days is often an enormously time-consuming task.
I mentioned that the announcement of the closing of Rootsweb was made almost secretively. A web search revealed not a single news article about it. So if you were concerned enough about it to read this far, please help it better known by sharing this article on social media too -- there are little buttons you can click at the bottom of the article to do so.
Notes and news on genealogy and family history by Steve Hayes and Val Greene. We live in Tshwane, South Africa, and we are especially interested in family history in southern Africa, the UK, Germany, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
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Friday, January 10, 2020
Thursday, February 08, 2018
African genealogy and Rootsweb mailing lists
It seems that the Rootsweb genealogy mailing list servers are down
again. There are several mailing lists dealing with genealogy in
various parts of Africa that have been affected by this.
This is a reminder about the African genealogy and family history
discussion forum, which is not part of Rootsweb and so has not been
affected. It is a continent-wide list, for discussing genealogy and
family history in any part of the African continent.
Visit the forum web page at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
for more information, and if you know anyone else who may be
interested, please invite them to do so as well.
Group Email Addresses
Main web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
Post message: afgen@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: afgen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: afgen-owner@yahoogroups.com
If you do not want to be a member of Yahoo! you can still subscribe to
the mailing list by sending e-mail to:
afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and on the first line of
the message.
If you do have a Yahoo! Id you can go to the web page and edit your
membership, though the people at Yahoo! try to make if very hard for members to do so, as if you follow the link they will often take you to a different web page instead, so you may find it easier just to subscribe to the list.
Steve Hayes
Moderator of the African Genealogy Discussion Forum
again. There are several mailing lists dealing with genealogy in
various parts of Africa that have been affected by this.
This is a reminder about the African genealogy and family history
discussion forum, which is not part of Rootsweb and so has not been
affected. It is a continent-wide list, for discussing genealogy and
family history in any part of the African continent.
Visit the forum web page at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
for more information, and if you know anyone else who may be
interested, please invite them to do so as well.
Group Email Addresses
Main web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
Post message: afgen@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: afgen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: afgen-owner@yahoogroups.com
If you do not want to be a member of Yahoo! you can still subscribe to
the mailing list by sending e-mail to:
afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and on the first line of
the message.
If you do have a Yahoo! Id you can go to the web page and edit your
membership, though the people at Yahoo! try to make if very hard for members to do so, as if you follow the link they will often take you to a different web page instead, so you may find it easier just to subscribe to the list.
Steve Hayes
Moderator of the African Genealogy Discussion Forum
Thursday, September 29, 2016
Rootsweb mailing lists
For some time now I have not seen any new messages on Rootsweb Mailing Lists.
There are more than 30000 genealogy mailing lists hosted by the Rootsweb servers, which have been managed by Ancestry.com and I've been using them for more than 20 years to communicate with and keep in touch with genealogists around the world, and suddenly they seem to have stopped working.
Some of the mailing lists have been gated into other forums, such as Usenet newsgroups and Googlegroups, so they have been fairly widely available, but suddenly they seem to have stopped working.
There's been no announcement on the Rootsweb Home Page, and no response from the Helpdesk.
Does anyone know what's going on?
For what it's worth the general African list is still working, but it's not hosted by Rootsweb but by YahooGroups. If you would like to subscribe, just send e-mail to:
afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line and the body of the message.
It's a continent-wide list, so it doesn't have the specialised focus on a particular province of a particular country, but you can use it for queries and comments about genealogy in any country in Africa.
There are more than 30000 genealogy mailing lists hosted by the Rootsweb servers, which have been managed by Ancestry.com and I've been using them for more than 20 years to communicate with and keep in touch with genealogists around the world, and suddenly they seem to have stopped working.
Some of the mailing lists have been gated into other forums, such as Usenet newsgroups and Googlegroups, so they have been fairly widely available, but suddenly they seem to have stopped working.There's been no announcement on the Rootsweb Home Page, and no response from the Helpdesk.
Does anyone know what's going on?
For what it's worth the general African list is still working, but it's not hosted by Rootsweb but by YahooGroups. If you would like to subscribe, just send e-mail to:
afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line and the body of the message.
It's a continent-wide list, so it doesn't have the specialised focus on a particular province of a particular country, but you can use it for queries and comments about genealogy in any country in Africa.
Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Rootsweb southern African mailing lists still down
On 16 June 2014 there was a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack on Ancestry.com, which hosts the Rootsweb mailing lists.
These mailing lists are still down after a week, and there's been no information about when they will be working again.
This has affected some of the lists dealing with parts of Africa, especially the southern African ones.
Until they are working again, people who are feeling cut off are welcome to post things in the general African genealogy list, which is not hosted by Rootsweb and so is still working. After all, KwaZulu-Natal and the Eastern Cape are just as much part of Africa as Tunisia, Mauretania and Somalia.
African genealogy list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
Group Email Addresses
Post message: afgen@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: afgen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
I've posted this to some of the people who I know have recently been active in the southern African Rootsweb lists.
When the Rootsweb lists are working again, of course you can go back to posting material of purely local interest in the specialist local lists, but I hope you will continue to post material of general African interest
in the African list.
These mailing lists are still down after a week, and there's been no information about when they will be working again.
This has affected some of the lists dealing with parts of Africa, especially the southern African ones.
Until they are working again, people who are feeling cut off are welcome to post things in the general African genealogy list, which is not hosted by Rootsweb and so is still working. After all, KwaZulu-Natal and the Eastern Cape are just as much part of Africa as Tunisia, Mauretania and Somalia.
African genealogy list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
Group Email Addresses
Post message: afgen@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: afgen-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: afgen-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
I've posted this to some of the people who I know have recently been active in the southern African Rootsweb lists.
When the Rootsweb lists are working again, of course you can go back to posting material of purely local interest in the specialist local lists, but I hope you will continue to post material of general African interest
in the African list.
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